Assured Guaranty Q2 FY2025 Earnings Call Transcript
BY Benzinga | MUNICIPAL | 08/08/25 10:22 AM EDTAssured Guaranty
Below are the transcripts from the Q2 earnings call, which took place Friday morning.
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Ezra (Operator)
Good morning and welcome to the Assured Guarantee Limited second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. My name is Ezra and I will be the operator for today’s call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing Star then zero on your telephone keypad. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press Star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press Star then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Robert Tucker, Senior Managing Director, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.
Robert Tucker (Senior Managing Director, Investor Relations And Corporate Communications)
Thank you operator and thank you all for joining Assured Guaranty
Dominic Federico (President And Chief Executive Officer)
Thank you Robert and welcome to everyone joining today’s call. We continue to build value for Assured Guaranty
Rob Valenson (Chief Operating Officer)
Thank you. Dominic Assured Guaranty
Ben Rosenblum (Chief Financial Officer)
Thank you Dominic and Rob and good morning. Second quarter 2025 adjusted operating income was $50 million or $1 and $0.01 per share, which compares with adjusted operating income of $80 million or $1.44 per share in the second quarter of 2024. The key revenue drivers net earned premiums and net investment income on the available for sale portfolio were both up in the second quarter of 2025 compared with the second quarter of 2024, which reflects the earnings power of each of these predictable streams of core earnings. Net earned premiums and credit derivative revenues increased by $5 million primarily due to earnings on new large transactions and supplemental premiums written in 2024. Our deferred premium revenue, which is our future store of earnings, was $3.9 billion. Net investment income on the available for sale fixed maturity and short term investment portfolio is increased $8 million in the second quarter of 2025. There were a few notable changes in the composition of the available for sale investment portfolio compared with the second quarter of 2024 that contributed to the increase in net investment income. First, certain Collateralized Loan Obligation (CLO) equity tranche investments were reclassified to the available for sale fixed maturity portfolio from a Collateralized Loan Obligation (CLO) fund whose change in net asset value or net asset value (net asset value (net asset value (NAV))) was previously reported in adjusted operating income. Net Investment income in second quarter of 2025 included $9 million related to the Collateralized Loan Obligation (CLO) equity tranches, whereas in the prior year the change in the net asset value (net asset value (net asset value (NAV))) of the clo fund was $3 million and second, net investment income on the externally managed portfolio increased by $6 million as our managers reinvested into higher yielding assets. However, the average balance of our short term investment portfolio declined as did the short term interest rates resulting in an offsetting decrease of $10 million in net investment income. In addition to the Collateralized Loan Obligation (CLO) equity tranches in the available for sale portfolio, we also have other alternative investments whose changes in net asset value (net asset value (net asset value (NAV))) are reported in adjusted operating income. Earnings from this portfolio tend to be more volatile than the fixed maturity portfolio. In the second quarter of 2025, the change in net asset value (net asset value (net asset value (NAV))) from these alternative investments was $5 million compared with $15 million in the second quarter of 2024. On an inception to date basis, as of June 30, 2025, our aggregate alternative investments have generated an annualized internal rig return of 13%, substantially greater than the returns on the fixed maturity portfolio. Changes in the fair value of trading securities, which mainly consists of Puerto Rico contingent value instruments, also tends to be volatile. In the second quarter of 2025, the change in fair value of trading securities was a $2 million gain compared with a $17 million gain in the second quarter of 2024. The changes in fair value of alternative investment and trading securities are two of the three primary drivers of the decrease in adjusted operating income in second quarter 2025compared with second quarter 2024. The last notable component of the variance is an increase of $27 million in the insurance segment. Loss expense in the second quarter of 2025, loss expense was primarily attributable to additional reserves on certain UK regulated utility and US Municipal revenue exposures. Loss expense is a function of both economic loss development and and the amortization of deferred premium revenue. In the second quarter of 2025, economic loss development was $36 million, mainly due to certain healthcare, UK regulated utility and municipal revenue exposures. Breaking down the main contributors of our second quarter results, the insurance segment contributed $76 million and the asset management segment contributed $4 million. Lease segment earnings were offset in part by the corporate division’s adjusted operating loss of $29 million in the second quarter of 2025, which is down from a $35 million loss in the prior year. On the capital management front, we repurchased 1.5 million shares per $131 million at an average price of $85.03 per share and also returned $19 million in dividends to our shareholders in the second quarter of 2025. Including our board’s most recent $300 million share repurchase authorization, our current remaining authorization is $356 million. In terms of our current holding company liquidity position, we have cash and investments of $157 million, of which $60 million resides in AGL. Share repurchases, along with adjusted operating income and new business production, collectively contributed to new records for adjusted operating shareholders equity per share of over $120 and adjusted book value per share of almost $177. While adjusted operating income varies from period to period, the consistent quarterly increases in these book value metrics reflect the value of our key strategic initiatives which build shareholder value over the long term. Since the end of the quarter, we had two very positive developments which demonstrate the successful execution of several of our key strategic initiatives. First, after many years of negotiation and hard work, our largest loss mitigation security, with a carrying value of $408 million as of June 30, 2025, was paid down using the proceeds from the liquidation of the trust assets. This outcome showcases our multifaceted approach to loss mitigation, combining a vigorous legal defense and financial flexibility. We reached a positive resolution after pursuing our legal rights, allocating capital to repurchase most of the outstanding exposure at discount and remaining patient. While the collateral value recovered, there will be little impact on the third quarter income for this final resolution. However, on an inception to date basis, we received over $100 million more in recoveries than we paid out, which resulted in a positive lifetime internal return of 2.7% for this troubled exposure. The second development, as Dominic mentioned, was that the Maryland Insurance Administration approved the redemption by the company’s US insurance subsidiary, Assured Guaranty, Inc. Of $250 million of its shares of common stock. Assured Guaranty, Inc. Expects to redeem such shares in exchange for cash and alternative investments in the third quarter of 2025. Proceeds from the stock redemption will flow into our U.S. holding companies and will be available for strategic initiatives, including share repurchases. I’ll now turn the call over to our operator to give you the instructions for the Q and A.
OPERATOR
Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press Star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press Star then two. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Marissa Lobo with ubs. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Thank you. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question first. I would just. More color on the pub. Hi, can you hear me? Okay.
Marissa Lobo (Analyst)
Sorry we missed the question. I was hoping for more color on how a lower interest rate environment Impacts the opportunity set for Assured Guaranty
Dominic Federico (President And Chief Executive Officer)
The lower interest rate environment, as we said, we get paid on principal and interest. So lower interest rate environment, but obviously depressed premium volume in terms of what we would calculate is rate against. So the basis of the premium calculation would go down, would affect our insurance portfolio which is obviously made of mostly fixed income securities. So it would also affect book value of that in terms of the secondary market, I don’t think has any impact whatsoever. And as we said strategically we’ve looked at the secondary market as kind of the ballast in today’s marketplace where there are low rates and tight credit spreads. The secondary market gives us an opportunity to balance that out with higher rated, higher performance or higher ROE business. So as I said, I think affect the portfolio, affect the premium calculation going forward depending on the size of the decrease in the interest rates. Yeah, but if rates, remember also if spreads widen out, even if rates go down, then you’re still going to get calculated higher premium. On the positive side, if rates go down, you’re going to have more issuers in the market as well. People take advantage of the low interest rates to in effect accomplish some borrowings that they’ve probably been holding off of because of the volatility in the market because of tariff, no tariff, you know, political, no political. So we got to make sure that that strains out as well. But if they’re low enough, you’ll see a lot more issuers come to market. You’ll also see more BBB and single A rated issuers come to market with lower interest rates and it could affect. Our earned premium in a positive way because of refunding. So there’s some good news and some bad news with a lower interest rate environment.
Marissa Lobo (Analyst)
That’s helpful, thank you. And just moving on to the loss expense and increasing big exposures, could you speak a little bit about, you know, the increase in big exposure to the non U S and also how you see the process timeline playing out for Bainswater here.
Dominic Federico (President And Chief Executive Officer)
So this is something we discussed at length in the company and also to you over the quarter. So what we’re responsible to do from the standpoint of evaluating the credits is do an independent evaluation of what we would rate the credit and the rating is kind of severe. So if you look at a bright line where the top tier, the basically capital stack, the ability to get to us in terms of a loss situation is pretty remote. But once the underlying credit has trouble making cash flow or making operating expenses, you downgrade the stack. But the stack is Protected at the top very, very well. So you’re looking at it below investment grade credit that quite honestly, if you’re the top 2 billion of 7 billion, you really have no exposure. But that’s not the way the rules work. When it comes time to lost reserves, you got the same problem. Low investment grade credit is going to attract the lost reserve loss reserves are calculated based on a scenario analysis and a probability weighting the majority. And I mean the significant majority of our credits that goes into our calculation of either reserves or below-investment-grade do not pay losses. So it’s an accounting concept. We actually try to get a statistic for you that how many lower reserves that we put up that we’ve never paid a loss on. And it’s the majority of the cases, the strong majority of the cases. Ben, you want to add anything to that?
Ben Rosenboom (Chief Financial Officer)
I think that sums it up.
Dominic Federico (President and Chief Executive Officer)
I think in many cases, I think. In many cases we put up losses. You know, and this is true certainly in the health care sector in the US where we put up many losses over the years and we downgraded a credit this quarter, Westchester Medical Center. But I can’t even think of the last time we paid out a loss in the US Health care sector is probably the Bayone hospital, you know, 20 some odd years ago. So reinsurance, I think. Well, FSA did it. But at the end of the day we do have a very strong surveillance team that works on the health care front. They’re very good at their job. They get in there and work out the credit downgraded and then we work through the problem. And your question was on tem. So let’s go back to that for a second. So remember, as we said, we’re in the opco, not the holdco. The problem there is capital expenditure is not operating expenses or operating ability to cover debt service. We’re very well protected in terms of the legal structure. And as you’ve seen in the current environment, we put up a plan with the rest of the creditors relative to refinancing, which is the only plan available. We’re very comfortable with our position in the plan when it means to us as a company. So hopefully that’ll continue its pace, get approved and then put into effect we’ll be able to cure the credit. You know, the joke I make internally, and I’ll put it out here for some criticism is at least even in Puerto Rico’s case they paid the water bill. So I’m assuming the UK government will do the same.
OPERATOR
Thanks for that. That’s it for me, just as a reminder to ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. Our next question comes from Tommy McJoint with KBW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Tommy McJoint (Analyst)
Hey, good morning, guys. This is a timely call. You know, following the announcement just a few days ago that five of the seven members of the Puerto Rico Oversight Board were dismissed by the president. Can you walk through your understanding of what happens from here in terms of nominations or new appointments to that board if they have to go through approval process, and then if this in any way delays the overall restructuring procedures just as new members get up to speed?
Dominic Federico (President and Chief Executive Officer)
Well, let’s look at the facts from the rear. So, number one, nothing could delay a restructuring or a consensual deal than the existing board was doing in terms of their execution. Remember, we had signed three previous deals which they reneged on every time, so it couldn’t go any slower. So any change to that’s got to be an improvement, Tommy. So at the end of the day, I’m optimistic that this road turns out to be a positive, not a negative. Number two, what ultimately happens, I think is still up for discussion relative to who’s got legal rights to do what. Remember how the original board was constituted? Each side got to put a couple on. The president got to put somebody on. Will they follow that path? I have no idea. So it’s still up in the open. It’s still whether they’re going to contest the dismissals. But as I said, to me, it can only improve. It can’t go, you know, in an adverse way.
Tommy McJoint (Analyst)
Okay.
Dominic Federico (President and Chief Executive Officer)
So I think it leads to yield potentially.
Tommy McJoint (Analyst)
Yeah, yeah, we’ll stay tuned on that. How much contingent value instruments from earlier Puerto Rico restructuring do you guys still hold? And as I understand it, those have been performing very well. And that’s just reflective of sales tax receipts coming in above budget. As we see that happen, can we think of prepa’s ability to repay and the ultimate recovery there as also potentially coming in better? Just thinking about economic activity driving sales tax receipts and that also potentially leading to more electric utilization. Is there a correlation there that we can think of?
Dominic Federico(President and Chief Executive Officer)
Let me answer your first question. So we have about $117 million remaining from the previous contingent value securities. And as you said, they performed very well. That’s why we held back. Unless it doesn’t meet our internal return thresholds, we would sell. But they do. So we hold. We expect them to Continue to improve. So as the market presents opportunity, we’ll execute accordingly. We don’t have a liquidity situation or position, so we don’t have to worry about holding the securities. So at the end of the day, it’s positive for the company. Number two, depending on what we ultimately resolve Prepa with, will there be contingent securities? I don’t know. But like you said, since they tend to undervalue them, they’re not a bad investment to take as part of a settlement because they typically outperform. We believe Prepa has abilities to repay its debt. And as you can see, the growth in the administrative expense claim continues to significantly increase, which represents a significant portion of the debt that was owed, which kind of funny in this case, we thought we’d have to prove that there’s money there other than have to prove to us that there isn’t money there. So I think it’s a very different situation than it was in the past with the change in the board members potentially and this administrative claim. I think things are getting very positive from the standpoint of preposability to settle our dispute and get to a consensual agreement.
Tommy McJoint (Analyst)
Thanks, Donald.
Dominic Federico (President and Chief Executive Officer)
You’re welcome, Tommy.
OPERATOR
Our next question comes from Jeffrey Dunn with Dowling and Partners. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Jeffrey Dunn (Analyst)
Thanks. Good morning. I saw Westchester Medical was added to your big list. And I know it’s only one notch below investment grade, but can you talk a little bit about what occurred there, you know, relative to first quarter and second quarter that brought it down to the big level?
Dominic Federico (President and Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, I think we know we’re constantly evaluating our credit. As I mentioned, we have a really good surveillance team led by Holly Hoard. And she looked at it, we looked at it and we saw the liquidity was not where we like our standards.
Additionally, you know, when you look what’s coming out of Washington, there may be some headwinds for Medicaid and Medicare patients out there. And as a result, we, as a forward looking basis, we decided we would downgrade it. We do not believe this is going to be a big problem. We generally, as I mentioned, work out our health care credits, but you got to take prudent measures and put up the ratings that you think make sense at the time. This is a critical facility, very important to the state, very important to the local environment. But as Ben points out, we have a process where we look at credits, we look at the future, we look at the cash flow situation, the available management team margins that are being pressurized and take the decisions we think are necessary relative to managing the credit. We generally have a very positive view on the turnaround possibilities there, and we’re looking forward to working with them to turn it around. I think, as Ben talks about in our history of health care credits, they perform very, very well because they are an operating exposure that can easily be amended versus political situations that are a little tougher to handle. This is not one of those. We are recognizing the facts of what is means relative to Medicare, Medicaid and cash flows and the demand. Remember, they’re bringing on a new facility which always has its problems in terms of operations, but just being forewarned is forearmed. That’s kind of our process in surveillance.
Jeffrey Dunn (Analyst)
Okay.
Thank you.
Dominic Federico (President and Chief Executive Officer)
You’re welcome. Thanks. Welcome, Jeff.
OPERATOR
This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to our host, Robert Tucker, for closing remarks.
Robert Tucker (Senior Managing Director, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications)
Thank you, operator. I’d like to thank everyone for joining us on today’s call. If you have additional questions, please feel free to give us a call. Thank you very much.
OPERATOR
This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you all for attending. You may now disconnect your lines. Have a great day.
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